bike value

dam thread stealing basteds

Your bike will sell for 1 gazilion pounds mate

There we go all happy

CraigB wrote:dam thread stealing basteds

Oops.

Any advance on a chocolate bar for your bike then, Craig?

Bluecollarlove wrote:Lol. That wouldn't bother me so much. Rather - it's the moral objection of following orders and going into war for political rather than moral reasons.

I work full-time, on a semester basis, depending on which courses are offered each year. My commute? Lol. If I stayed in the same place it wouldn't be so bad. Last spring, it was 25 miles each way. If I'm lucky, it's just an 8 mile ride each way. But these days, I'm doing more of my own freelance work, which means I can work from home.

Lol - I wasn't ribbing you about the VFR. I like it a lot - the VFR800 v-tec version that is

I really do fancy doing the army, But its full of nob heads now a days. All the bad lads / rejects get sent there.

Ohh I thought that you just worked at a uni everyday doing lectures. Working from home what a dream, you can come on here or go out riding when ever you like

Yeah I guess the VFR800 V-Tec is a good bike, but I don't think it would suit my image, maybe when I'm 50 odd and want to go touring it will be a good bike for me. But when I'm 50 years old, Motorbikes will probably be running off battery and the only V-Twin noise you will get is form a stereo on your pillion seat Lol.

Well maybe you should try the cadets or something if you're interested in the army. It probably makes sense to go into university; get a degree, and then join as an officer, rather than having to slog your way through the ranks.

Most of the nob heads are just kids who have troubled backgrounds and need the military discipline/order so that they can find somewhere they feel they belong.

The army isn't so good if you're independent thinking; creative, and tend to be subversive as a personality. Problem is, these things are never obvious till you're older and more aware of your personal characteristics. I'm a bit like Benny - I can't stand being told what to do (lol), but I can smile and convince people

Yeah - I usually work in the uni during term time. It's not term time yet! When it is, I'll probably vanish for a while and have to knuckle down to work! Nooooooo -I don't just go out riding when I like!

Although I used to

The VFR800 is a bit sedate. It is more of a Lissee's DILF's bike lol. You probably will try out a few before you settle onto a bike you really love carving up the roads with

My mate has just gone into cadets after leaving school.

I quite like the idea of being a soldier, as when you become officer, you get all the abuse from the rejects etc.

They need more than military discipline to sort some of them out.

I guess I can be told up to a certain extent but then it gets to where it starts to take the mick.

Ohh what do you do during the term time? there's no one to teach lol

What do you do all day now then? I can think of plenty of stuff I could do

Yeah generally I see quite a few of the older men riding the VFR800, yeah that would be a perfect bike for her instructor.

I still think you cant get much better than carving up the roads with a sports bike

I quite like the idea of being a soldier, as when you become officer, you get all the abuse from the rejects etc.

When you become a soldier, you get all the abuse from the reject officers

The problem about kids joining the military which I have, is that military discipline only works within the institution/structure of the military. The military does very little in preparing kids with life skills. Kids who go into it, can forge their identity within the military...but what happens when they come out? A lot of ex-soldiers, especially with injury or disability, end up with huge physical and mental health problems, and the military support for them is pathetic. The suicide rates of ex-soldiers was over 3x the normal population too. At the end of the day, the military is just a career; a career that kills isn't exactly a burning proposition!

Lol....I don't just do teaching. I'd just be a teacher in that case
Research mostly .... I think it'd send you to sleep to know what about ...! We also supervise some post-grad students as well as technical writing. Freelance work is different - that is specialist writing too. I like to get out on the bike as much as I can, although I can't just jack in a day's work just because the weather's good

Well maybe one day you'll get to go touring and see how fantastic the scenery is - that's worth slowing down for. A lot of VFR riders are more into the touring side than the sports riding side. I like a bit of both actually

Hmm it sees like I would get it from all angles in the army then lol.

Yeah I have heard of quite a lot of soldiers committing suicide to due to not being able to live without being in the force or from being distressed after watching a mate get killed.

Think about it this way though, you don't half get to see the world a hell of a lot, I did my bike training with a guy who had just come back from Iraq, he had been to soo many countries.

Ohh well if it would send me to sleep, does it not send you to sleep?

Your job sounds really complicated.

Yeah I was talking to a guy down the pub, he said he just jumps on his Honda with a ruck sack, tank bag and just drives. He said I should do it one day as its just brilliant, when you don't know where your going to end up next

Well the way I see it, society has always had a strange relationship with its soldiers. When in need of self-defence, there's no problems. Otherwise, society here treats them as if they need more pesticide.

This is the opposite in foreign countries. When I travelled in China, I was struck at how privileged soldiers are. They get discounts, benefits, and state support in many things which soldiers here don't. Sure you'd get a pension if your leg got blown off here, but whether the MOD would support a soldier with housing, health care like occupational therapy and physiotherapy...well that's another matter.

Yeah - I'm in a very niche profession. I know you wouldn't believe it from what I write here, but I actually like using my brain when I'm work.


I get really bored of mundane and mechanical/routine work which a parrot could do. I like thinking and problem solving, which is why I like the work I do. I know it would crack some people up. Lol.

Yeah I was talking to a guy down the pub, he said he just jumps on
his Honda with a ruck sack, tank bag and just drives. He said I should
do it one day as its just brilliant, when you don't know where your
going to end up next

Lol. I do that sometimes. Last time I ended up Scotland

That's exactly like this guy I know. He's just like 'Forrest Gump'! It's funny for a while, but after about 5 years of it, you just want to deck him one! I've been on holiday with him several times and all he does, is follow his bl**dy sat-nav and not think about where he's going. We ended up going up a one way street and being stopped by a copper. Thinking he'd learnt his lesson, the next day, when he agreed to turn the sat-nav off and I gave instructions: "turn right!" He turns right into a bush where there ain't no road. Doh!

Ahh yes, the MOD may supply you with a pension for your leg being blown off, but no amount of money can replace your leg.

I guess if the MOD did that for every one then they would be out of pocket major, but then the gvt. should fund this.

I agree repetitive work does get very boring.

Lol perfect, thats the type of thing I would like to do, wouldn't want to do it on the VFR though, I feel a bad sensation of cramp just from sitting on it lol, I guess I'll get used to it, but then I also had cramp when I first got on the CBR but a few days got me used to it

Arghh, were you both on bikes or by car? It sounds rather a stupid thing to do that driving into a bush

That's it....the MOD is not a soldier's 'famliy'. Many soldiers are naive enough to think that comradeship and their unit is enough of a family. I guess this is what makes it attractive to join - a sense of belonging and place in a unit, with clear defined roles and goals. I suppose I take the view that government should be accountable for the outcome of war; not just on declaring war. This means, being able to justify how they will pay to care for the injured; the bereaved orphans; the disabled, and the impact on society!

No wonder I'm not a politican

You get cramp on the VFR? You're probably not used to the riding position. Some tall guys struggle to find anything other than a car comfy lol. I can ride my Factory for a few hours continuously. Well, up to its tank range of 130 miles on a good road without stopping. Rucksack - big difference. Pain and agony and wrist ache all build up quicker.

My mate Forrest Gump doesn't ride a bike. I wouldn't trust him to co-ordinate left and right hands properly. He took me in his car on a trail run. He just doesn't think sometimes; so when he hears; "Turn right!" it's just a knee-jerk reaction without thinking. No wonder his girlfriend dumped him lol.

Yeah many of time I've had people tell me that you wont get any better friends than the ones you meet in the army, the save your life etc. But I guess without experiencing it first hand, its hard to predict what could happen, as some guys can become the outkast of the groups.

You know the type of groups, the ones that go around acting all "hard" thinking they are better than everyone else. Theres a few like that in my school, they are in in the year below me or 2 years below me now.

Damn do they abuse the staff here and nothing happens to them They take drugs, smoke etc all on school property, they dont even follow the school dress code and I never see them in trouble. And one day when a teacher was walking on the wrong side of the corridor and I went around the corner and bumped into her I was nearly done for assult and came close to being expelled. When it was clearly her fault as she wasn't keeping to the left, the was walking on the right so she didn't have to open a door (lazy cow).

Yeah i do after only a little bit of riding, as it has some racing rear sets which reduces the height and brings them back a little, its a hell of a lot different to my CBR or RS.

I don't mind carrying a ruck sack really, I undo the straps enough just so it sits on the pillion seat and its not hanging on my back.

Lol, I bet you didn't half feel stupid when he crashed into a bush, how embarrasing. Has he found himself a new girlfriend yet?

I must addmitt I do things without thinking sometimes, like when riding or walking suddenly I'll think how the hell did I get here lol, and I can't remember what I've actually just done, I guess that its caused by boredom or fatigue.

That's true....well, just as true as the myth - 'dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'

When I worked for an inner city charity, many of the ex-soldiers with PTSD, depression, alcoholism talked of how great (idealised) the army was. The reality however, being in a civilian society and depending on volunteers to come and see them, often made me think it quite sad, that all they had left were memories. Yeah there's no doubt that bullying goes on in any institution

You know the type of groups, the ones that go around acting all
"hard" thinking they are better than everyone else. Theres a few like
that in my school, they are in in the year below me or 2 years below me
now.

Lol. I know enough about them. My girlfriend teaches them
She's only 5ft 5" (I have to exaggerate in case she discovers I've been talking about her on the internet!) and teaching hormonal teenagers who are twice her size is quite intimidating, especially if the schoolboys aren't aware of their own body space, let alone other people's and staff. I guess female teachers are more touchy about body space, so an accident can get misinterpreted. Equally, some boys are bad! bad! Bad! Lol. You wouldn't have a bad reputation at school would you Dan?

Teachers don't like to admit they're wrong! (hmmm...why do I know that one first hand?!). I guess in a secondary school, it's easily interpreted as a sign of weakness and all the little teenage vultures will be out to eat her for breakfast until the bell rings!

Must've been quite upsetting to be blamed like that for an accident. Some kids get fed up of being blamed all the time they just go out to deliberately wreck havoc: since they're going to get the blame, why bother trying to be good? It's a vicious cycle....

Back to riding! Some rearsets are nice mods. I've never actually had to modify mind. If I don't fit a bike, then I won't custom adapt it to fit! There must be something else designed with 'ME' in mind

Rucksacks alter centre of gravity; if its sitting on your pillion seat, it might decide to do a knee down manoeuvre, long after you want to get your own knee up!

Yeah - Forrest Gump mate found a new girlfriend. He posted his love life on an internet blog. It was just sickening to read. Anyway, he's very predictable; when he's got a new girlfriend, I don't hear from him for months. When he's broken up, then I get the surprise phone call and text messages saying: "HOW YA DOING!!! LONG TIME NO SEE!!! IT'S SOOOOO GOOD TO SEE YOU!!" and I'm thinking: "* hash delete." Lol.

Hmm I'm not familiar with that language lol, would you care to translate please?

Yeah people always seem to mention the army when they have had far to much to drink. There's this one guy where I used to go to the pub...I don't go now as she won't serve me, the bloke that was there before did...Legend
Anyway he drinks a fair bit this old guy does, then as he gets more and more drunk e starts boring everyone with his war stories, I find it interesting to hear, but the same one over and over again...Lol.

Ohh she wouldn't be pleased with you then. Well she beats my mum shes like a midget compared to me and I'm not that tall about 5 ft 9" - 10".

Ohh a bad reputation for what might that be Morgan?

Well I was just really annoyed at the fact she blamed me, it wasn't a hard band at all (that was not dirty) then she dragged me to the office to talk to some guy, I thought he was going to tie me to the chain in a dark room, put a light in my face then begin to slap me
He was taking it all serious Bla Bla Bla, then I had to go and see her the next day to apologize...when I got there she was giving me the sob story of how she was aching... I was like get a grip.

She has a reputation around school for being a total bitch anyway, its a good job she's left to have a baby now Good Ridence.

Yeah there's a few like that in school or well there was after a long time it leads to them being expelled.

Yeah they look a lot better than the standard ones. But now I need to get a small bit of carbon fiber to stop my boot being scratched from the rear brake master cylinder.

See if that was me, I would adjust myself to get used to the bike, well if I liked it enough

I don't really get much problems with a rucksack as I don't carry lots of stuff in them as it does get a bit of a problem when cornering etc. I do have to adjust the straps or it starts to flap around in the wind. I use my school bag and my school has this thing where your straps have to be done so your bag sits, I learnt that during my first few days of year 7 and it has stuck since. Actually I was rather scared on my second day when I was approached by 3 girls much older than me who began to adjust my bag straps

Ohh I don't think I could ever go that low even if I was desperate to be honest. Looking for love on the web clearly shows how desperate you are and doesn't set a good example imo.

Well he's seems a bit like one of my mates (a bit of a "user")...he gets a new bird doesn't want to know us, when he's finished he will be back sniffing again around us, but tbh if they are like that then I don't have the time of day for them.

DanHam wrote:Hmm I'm not familiar with that language lol, would you care to translate please?

'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori' -

this is the Latin verse to a famous World War I poem by the soldier/poet Wilfred Owen:

http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html

He was a far better poet than Siegfried Sassoon who became more famous. In the first world war, soldiers' attitudes were
shaped by moral correctness and political hype: soldiers were told that there was nothing better in life than to fight for their
country, come back as heroes and young men were recruited in their thousands, even kids below 16, because they were so
desperate to fight for 'glory' in war. The verse translates roughly as - It is sweet and beautiful to die for your country'.

Wilfred Owen, having lived in the trenches, saw a different side to it. His poem, turned public perception about the war on its head.

Yeah people always seem to mention the army when they have had far to much to drink. There's this one guy where I used to go to the pub...I don't go now as she won't serve me, the bloke that was there before did...Legend
Anyway he drinks a fair bit this old guy does, then as he gets more and more drunk e starts boring everyone with his war stories, I find it interesting to hear, but the same one over and over again...Lol.

One of the things I learnt about working with people like that, is that their short-term memory can be very damaged by alcohol intake. Alcohol stops the brain absorbing a type of vitamin B and so those guys who rabbit on about what happened years or decades ago, often do so, because there isn't anything recent in their lives that happened; nor anything recent that they can remember. Kind of sad. My neighbour had dementia, and she started doing the same thing too. It was very sad seeing her short term memory slowly fade away. I guess there are faster ways to make it fade away - like continuing with the booze. When you're 16, you don't think it'll have any effect; most 16 year olds think they're invincible and can't be affected by death or illness. Unless they've had some life experience before hand. Anyway. Off this morbid subject!

Ohh a bad reputation for what might that be Morgan?

Lol. Well, I reckon that if you ever did anything, even something not particularly naughty - just something in school, then you'd be easy to single out: "It's that Dan guy - the one who rides the orange tiger coloured Japanese sewing machine."

Wow. That's some mean teacher! They always do get pregnant and leave, just in the most important academic year, huh? My biology teacher went off and got pregnant when I did my GCSEs. A year later, I was unfortunate to have her again for A level and she went off and got pregnant in my lower 6th year so we had part time supply teachers who didn't know what to do nor control the class. In the final A level year she came back, and became pregnant again. We didn't need sexual reproduction taught in the syllabus. She kind of embodied it. Lol.

Yeah they look a lot better than the standard ones. But now I need to get a small bit of carbon fiber to stop my boot being scratched from the rear brake master cylinder.

Huh! It's those bling A* boots with the metal heels. The metal heel will do more scratching to your frame, than the cylinder will do to your boots. I always get chain wax over my left one for some reason - and my rearsets don't let me reach that far back! In the end, it doesn't bother me - not like I wash my bike everyday. Unlike some

I don't really get much problems with a rucksack as I don't carry lots of stuff in them as it does get a bit of a problem when cornering etc. I do have to adjust the straps or it starts to flap around in the wind. I use my school bag and my school has this thing where your straps have to be done so your bag sits, I learnt that during my first few days of year 7 and it has stuck since. Actually I was rather scared on my second day when I was approached by 3 girls much older than me who began to adjust my bag straps

Awwww. That's so cute

Well, I guess you learn to live with other people's limits. This Forrest Gump mate of mine doesn't realise he uses people. He just gets on with using them! Lol. He doesn't intend to be unkind or mean - he just can't help it. That's just the way some people are brought up I guess

Do'hh How did I not know that, I remember studying that poet...it was a good few years ago mind.

It may sound odd but I would have loved to experience what it was like to be alive when the war was going on. My Dad's father was a young boy during WW2, he remember's that he was once stood in the docks of Southampton watching the Spitfires fight the German planes over head, what a view that must of been to see

Yes lol, let's not put a downer on our interseting comments

Lol as it happens, my names has been put forward quite a few times that I don't even have a clue that it has happened. Last year my name was put forward as trashing one of the rooms at school...I wasn't even in school How dopey of the teachers not to cheack that before hand.

I can't wait to ride my "sewing machine" tonight lol, its Friday so I'll be off for the weekend to stay at my Dad's I really enjoy the ride down after working really really hard (sarcasm ) at school for the week

Well I was never taught by her, my form teacher did leave during my first year as she was pregnant too, there's been quite a few lately, but it seems like thier off for soo long to, then they seem to disappear again.

Hmm perhaps your Biology teacher enjoyed being paid for being pregnant, who knows she might be ones of them 60 year old's by now that has like 20 kids

Yeah my own fault really, the rear sets on my CBR though have scratched my A* pretty bad, but it is just general ware and tare which you can't do anything about, Im not to happy about it actually and it leaves a big black marks on my rear sets but then it gives me the excuse to polish them back up with autosol

When you say that, your starting to make me feel how I did back in year 7 again

Yeah he's probably done it for soo long to everyone that it's become a habbit to him now and he doesn't even realise he's doing it.

It's hard to forget Latin once you learn the original poem by the Latin poet Horace. English makes more sense that way

The southern counties here have an annual airshow and sometimes they have the original spitfires performing air acrobatics. It's really quite a thrilling sight too. Although on vacation this year, seeing all of the cemeteries; the graves of the dead and the underground military hospitals, it left a different and less romantic or fantastic view about the war with me. My ex-next door neighbour survived 2 wars. She was mortified by what she witnessed. In a way, she never really recovered from experiencing what she did.

Isn't it funny how others blame you in your absence?! I hope that was just a one off. Gullible teachers, believing that you could possibly be that naughty! (or gullible me, believing that you're not!!!)

So how was your sewing machine ride to your dads? I washed my bike this weekend and wheeling it to the local garage 2 miles away. Really pissed off when I got home and there were dirt streaks all over the wheels already.

Well biology teachers are a thing of the past. I haven't kept in contact with my old school teachers. Some people do! Lol. I remember one of our classmates bursting in tears on the last day as if she was going to commit suicide saying how she really missed us all and it was all so brilliant. The biology teacher said she'd get over it, and she said she wouldn't, because the teacher and everyone were so wonderful to her. Sick sick sick!!! I had to leave quick before any of the tears and slobber contaminated me

When you say that, your starting to make me feel how I did back in year 7 again

Haha I wouldn't mind if 3 girls came up to me to adjust my straps

Getting late now....better get some sleep!

Wow, how many languages do you know then?

Yeah I wouldn't mind visiting France to see where it all took place tbh, I know my Dad would love to too, maybe I'll take him one day

I bet it was quite sad to see all the graves of people who died even though it was a fair time ago.

Noo, tbh I don't really get into trouble at all, I haven't had any telling offs for quite a long time now, probably about 2 years or more

How come you had to wheel it? Why couldn't you ride it.

Well it was okay, at first I had to go for petrol, so I went to turn right at what I though was 3 way lights so I pulled to turn right and this huge Merc just carried on coming for me...I was like WTF, turns out they were 2 way light and that you had to give way, but there was no sign to tell you... typical of Wales, anyway my lightning reactions on the clutch got me out of there real fast before the Merc got closer

Then I was going down the bypass way and it wasn't busy, just me on one side and a Big Black tinted Range Rover on the otherside, and I went passed him and he just slammed on his brakes and did a U-turn, I thought it was the police so I was like "Bye Bye", I hurried to get to the rounabout so I could filter thorugh all the traffic. I thought they wanted to stop me because of my visor as I wasn't doing anything else wrong.

Then I came home last night and I was followed by an bunch of young twats in a golf who thought it would be funny to follow me with full beam on and then flash their lights at me when I was doing 30 in the 30 Dick Heads. Anyway we got to some lights and they kept their full beam on even other cars were flashing them and they wouldn't turn them off. So I did a quick CBR start...Wooo and then overtook a car so I wouldn't be followed by them or they would have caused an accident as they were starting to act like dicks.

I nearly asked him what his problem was but since there wa 4 of themI decided against it. Damn I was soo annoyed and my left foot was shaking like mad ( I do that when I'm angry ) that I couldn't change gear properly

Noo I bet you wouldn't I wouldn't say no if they came up and did it now

Yeah was very late, don't you get tired on a Monday?

Just English and French really. No one speaks Latin! I can read it though that just makes people think I'm really weird, rather than the normal guy I really am

I guess schools vary. The kind of school I went to, you never ever got a detention unless you were in the failing 1% of the school year. We could be hooligans outside, and that's generally what happened. Detentions weren't given for things like talking in class, or chewing gum, wearing short skirts or talking back to a teacher. That kind of PC is killing education off and undermining relationships between teachers and kids.

Sounds like you had a fun ride. So you don't ride during the week then? I'd rather not encounter any cars of any type when I ride. It's just very very hard in a built up area though. Yeah - good survival strategies - you don't want to ask 4 guys in a car what they did wrong. At best, you might stop them and pretend they have a loose exhaust can so they get out and check whilst you get away with a head start.

Why the left foot and not the right foot? Are you left handed too lol.

Mondays are always going to be awful no matter what time I go to sleep at. I figure I might as well enjoy the weekend and cope with the lack of sleep on Monday. That way I really look forward to Monday evenings

Just English and Welsh for me Its good to have 2 languages as you can talk about someone when they are right by you and they don't have a clue what your saying

Wow thats something, I haven't had detention for ages now about 12 months. Our school has gone really strict this year. Got to wear the right uniform, no chewing gum, no being late, no short skirts...although a lot of girls get away with it which I am really really glad about

It was okay lol, No I don't ride in the week, I have no need to unless I have to go get my hair cut or something, I will have to ride on Thursday though, I have a party to go to but I will not be riding back Yeah I've never had that kind of attitude from other car drivers before, sure I've been cut up and pushed into the gutter but they soon get the idea they have pissed you off when you been and wave your hands at them.

Heyy I was getting on my bike the other day and my boot accidentally caught some guys car, it left a mark, it wasn't that bad T-Cut would get it out as it wasn't a hard one, them metal bits on the boot are going to be come real handy

Yeah I'm left handed too

Yeah thats what I find, I got home today, then thought about doing some weights, next thing I knew it was 6 o clock, I fell asleep lol.

Whaddya mean you've not had a 'detntion for about 12 months'???!!

You're a motorcycle rider - and so an ambassador for the motorcycling community! If you get even 1 detention, you screw it up for all bikers in the whole of Wales, and everyone will instantly think that all bikers are tossers who get detentions. Well that might be a bit OTT but you get my drift!

Lol. Most of the girls in the all girls schools had to wear ankle skirts. There's no way a mini was ever going to be offensive if it was cut just above their ankles.

Well I was reading in the papers today, how there have been 800 complaints in 1 year about teacher-pupil misconduct. I guess the no mini-skirt rules are there to protect the girls from the male teachers, especially PE teachers!!

Okay.....you're left handed and you leave accidental marks on cars. This is the start of a career as a delinquent! Congrats - feels like you're reliving my teenage hooligan years!

12 months is good, its barely been 12 hours since some of the riff raff had detention at school lol.

What the motorcycling community doesn't know won't hurt then

Ohh right, well some of the girls wear such short skirts at school that you can even just about see the bottom of their bums I don't know if that a good or bad thing, very distracting though. The school is clamping down on it though.

Woahh 800 that is quite a bit, I hope none of them are aimed at you...well they wouldn't be as you are a researcher

Hmm male PE teachers in my school are legends, I saw one on Reclaim North Wales day, he was quite surprised when I told him it was me riding the bike and not my Dad lol.

The female teachers on the other hand are real odd bod's they are all horrible, well one of them is a MILF. But then one of them is also a Lesbian who has married a woman who has then gone onto have a sperm donor and now has given birth and is now being bought up by 2 Mums WTF!! Poor child

You call them 'accidental' Jokes, Left handers are known to be quite smart are you left handed too then?

How am I reliving your teenage hooligan years? I bet you got up to much more than I do

Haha....I don't work with minors. Well, actually the way some of them adults I teach, act, you wouldn't actually believe they're adults......

Philosophically speaking, you can see a girl/woman as who she is [that is, 'being'], or you can see her as a 'thing'. We start off in our immaturity, seeing others as part-objects: 'things'. So it's commonly bandied around the boys changing rom or pub: 'cor - I want to go out with that pair of tits'. This is part-object language; or seeing girls as 'things' or objects. This is what we call, objectivising others, or reducing them to a pair of tits etc. It is an 'inauthentic position': it gratifies selfish male needs, without recognising actually, who that girl/other person actually is. 'Thing', displaces 'being'. The girl/woman, becomes a 'thing' or object, which can only be possessed [i.e. 'to have'] and not experienced as 'being' [i.e. a proper relationship: "to be - 'me' "].

Did you follow that? Well maybe not....anyway...what I'm saying is, I'd have too many objections to people treating others badly! It gives me the creeps to think that people in power can take advantage of others as a thing [for their own self-pleasure], at the expense of denying their victim of proper 'being'. 'Having' replaces 'being' - this is a sad way to go, but it's the way of the consumer society we live in. We're only interested in what we can have ('what's in it for me?', rather than *actually* discovering someone's freedom to be her/himself).

Well they say that of those 800 cases, only about 8 of them go for a successful prosecution; like the lesbian teacher and the 15 year old girl, or the 24 year od male teacher who screwed a girl who was desperately unhappy after arguing with her parents.

Lol - the kind of school I went to, it was impossible that any teacher might be ghey/lesbian. It just wasn't thinkable. I had a very sheltered view of the world growing up in school

Left handers .... are very unique!!!

I hate hate hate hate hate!!! playing left handers in squash! They always catch me unaware and they can tire out my back stroke with their left forehand. Being mostly a backhand player, I seem to lose consistently to left handers. Most left handers I know were exceptionally bright so you're probably right. Either that, or all the thick left handers don't know they're left handed and use their right lol.

Ohh right, well some of the girls wear such short skirts at school that you can even just about see the bottom of their bums I don't know if that a good or bad thing, very distracting though. The school is clamping down on it though.

Ouch! Won't that clamping hurt their bums!

Haha....anytime I did anything naughty as a teenager, it was *always* by accident! I even had the surprise intonation and expression to sell it

I understood everything what you said, it took me sometime but I understood it

I hear a lot of lads talk like they way you just described, it seems that most men will look at a woman tits before even looking at her face and even getting to know her, Hey I guess I may have done this before and I am sure you have at some point in your teenage years I expect it to go away in most males by the times they get a little older and actually go for a girl because of eho she is and not what she posseses.

Lesbian teacher and 15 year old girl, now that is absolutley disgusting to hear about, that woman should have been shot.

There has been a few cases at my school where teachers have screwed 6th formers, some lost theur job some didn't. However I am not one of them but if I was I know who I would screw straight away HAHA Jks.

There was also a case of where some pupils caught 2 teachers having an sexual act in the science store room lol...how embarassing.

I've never played squash, Wouldn't mind ago, I much prefer badminton my Dad used to play a lot of squash when he was younger.

All the left handers I know write wierdly with like their wrist in a bent way around what they are writing :S I write like a normal right handed person just from the left

I'm not left handed in everythine...I guess you could call me ambidextrous. If I was to play squash or any bat or throwing game then I would also play with my right arm. I would always punch someone with my right arm but my left is stronger I think.

I think that would be quite funny to see actually.

Ohh so when you were my age you were lucky then to be able to always pass the 'buck' onto someone else

Crikes Dan. Well I certainly wasn't as well behaved as you were when I was 17 lol.

Yeah - objectifying women is pretty much a stereotypical male norm. Sadly, this tendency doesn't go away. I have mates who convince themselves that they love a girl. Wild swings from infatuation and obsession to stalking his ex and then telling everyone what a b***h she was. He used to pop around for a drink and tell me all this, and I'd ask him: what do you think she'd say about you? He never really answered those questions. Last time I met up with him, he was going out with a pop singer. Her music is trash, so it was really difficult when he asked me what I thought of her....

There has been a few cases at my school where teachers have screwed 6th formers, some lost theur job some didn't. However I am not one of them but if I was I know who I would screw straight away

It sounds like you really go to school for an education, right Dan?

I'm not very good at badminton. I can't control the shuttle very well and lose control of the court playing singles. Maybe the people I play are too good (okkay I'm just really crap!) and make me run around the whole court whilst they stand at the T bone idly whacking the shuttle back to me.

When I was your age *ahem!*, I was clever enough not to get caught out! Maybe because I was bright and not braggadocious in school I could pull a fast one over the teachers. There was a boy in my Biology class who used to really wind me up. He'd tell me I was going to wreck another Biology experiment before we even started, and I was like, the first in the form in our Biology exam grades. Well he'd nag and nag at me incessantly and one day I had it with him I filled a 2 litre jug of water and tipped it over him. He made these gurgling girly noises and I just stood back and said 'sorry, but you asked for this'. The teacher came over and I told her it was an accident. He was screaming "NO IT WASN'T!! HE DID IT ON PURPOSE!!" I just nodded my head and said: "It's never happened before. ...." Before the teacher said anything, I said I'd get the mop. Then the teacher asked him to go dry off and let it be. I was 18 then